THINKERS SEP 28 2010: NAMES.

Ice Weirsider.

[2010/09/28 15:31]  Extropia DaSilva: Welcome to Thinkers!
[2010/09/28 15:31]  Extropia DaSilva: This topic was largely inspired by the upcoming change in SL…
[2010/09/28 15:32]  Extropia DaSilva: Which is the ability to change your screen name or something like that..
[2010/09/28 15:33]  Extropia DaSilva: I was wondering, are the names we attach to our online identities of more significance than our RL name? Does it have more meaning?
[2010/09/28 15:34]  Extropia DaSilva: For instance, why did Lem call himself ‘Lem’? Was there a particular reason for adopting that name? Or not?
[2010/09/28 15:34]  Lem Skall: I have a theory that our names influence our personality and I have lived with my RL name for much longer than my SL name and I CHOSE the SL name
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Extropia DaSilva: hello Arch.
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Zobeid Zuma: I like the goofy SL names. . .
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Lem Skall: meh, just looked through the books I had and I picked the name of Stanislaw Lem
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Extie
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I subscribe to Lem’s theory 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Zobeid Zuma: I once premptively banned everybody named “Phallic” from my property. :/
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Extropia DaSilva: Good choice that. Stanislaw Lem was a great writer.
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Archmage Atlantis: Hope I don’t sit in someone’s favorite chir tonight
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed — I thought everybody understood Lem’s choice hehe
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Latoya Church: /me giggles
[2010/09/28 15:35]  Extropia DaSilva: I did not.
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Extie! Pfft!
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Extropia DaSilva: I mean, I have heard of Lem of course.
[2010/09/28 15:36]  lufpleh Obstreperous: does the fact you picked it not reflect your personality
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Latoya Church: I never heard of Lem before—something new to me
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Lem Skall: just picked a name that sounded right
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Latoya Church: /me nods
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Lem Skall: Latoya, impossible, you never heard of me before?
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Zobeid Zuma: I remember Fleep Tuque once said she regretted picking such a funny name at the start. And I was like. . . Nooo! Fleep Tuque is a *great* name. It’s much easier to remember than boring RL names.
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Extropia DaSilva: My name was obviously chosen to say something about my philsophical outlook on life.
[2010/09/28 15:36]  Latoya Church: /me shakes head *no*
[2010/09/28 15:37]  Extropia DaSilva: Hello Art:)
[2010/09/28 15:37]  ArtCrash Exonar: hi there my peoples
[2010/09/28 15:37]  Latoya Church: /me waves
[2010/09/28 15:37]  Lem Skall: incorrect, we belong to Extie
[2010/09/28 15:38]  Extropia DaSilva: No no this is Art’s Sim.
[2010/09/28 15:38]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me misses the point about “DaSilva”
[2010/09/28 15:38]  ArtCrash Exonar: I own everyone, you must now pay taxes
[2010/09/28 15:38]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 15:38]  Extropia DaSilva: I like the way it sort of has a rhyming quality with Extropia.
[2010/09/28 15:38]  Latoya Church: /me raises her hand
[2010/09/28 15:38]  Extropia DaSilva: Speak anytime you like, people. We do not take turns here:)
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Latoya Church: I know this might sound stupid but the reason I chose my name was becuase it was the only thing name that i could pronounce at the time
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Latoya Church: last name*
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Latoya Church: Now my Rl middle name is Latoya and I decided to stick with it
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Free Radar HUD: /me v1.1 by Crystal Gadgets
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Lem Skall: I think it’s like appearance, we pick a name either because we like it or because of the way we want to project ourselves
[2010/09/28 15:39]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Strange… I used exactly the reverse approach!!!
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Extropia DaSilva: See, I thought you were named after Micheal Jackon’s sister.
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Latoya Church: omg NO
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Latoya Church: /me laughs
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Perhaps she *is* Michael Jackson’s sister 😉
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Extropia DaSilva: My bad:)
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Latoya Church: LOL!
[2010/09/28 15:40]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me asks for some money
[2010/09/28 15:40]  ArtCrash Exonar: The little secret about sl name choice for noobs is that there are at least ten times more name choices available than they make apparent. You just redo the process and they keep showing up with new ones. BUT they don’t tell you that is possible.
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aha, nice one, Art.
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Luisa Bourgoin: moneh? for … Gwyneth Who ?
[2010/09/28 15:41]  lufpleh Obstreperous: /me nods at Art
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me grins @ Luisa
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Very true. I had no idea we could NOT change our name in 2004.
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Zobeid Zuma: Zobeid was the princess in A Thief of Baghdad, by Achmed Abdullah. And Zuma was a last name that popped up beginning with Z. 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Lem Skall: ok, but if we’ll be able to change our name once a week, how are we going to use that ability?
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Extropia DaSilva: I obviously did not look far when choosing my surname…Got as far as the Ds:)
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Badly, Lem? 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:41]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe Extie
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, now you will have the chance to change it!
[2010/09/28 15:42]  ArtCrash Exonar: I made an alt to be part of SaveMe Oh’s army. And had to find a last name that started with an O that sounded right. I reloaded 30 times to find the right name.
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Lem Skall: I think I’ll have fun with it once in a while
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Say, to Extropia Transhumania
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Extropia DaSilva: Oh, I thought your name was a pun on ‘SO BE IT’.
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: 😉
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Archmage Atlantis: I didn’t really choose per se…….I just knew, sort of by instinct
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Latoya Church: What the purpose of given the OPTION to change your name though? it messed up everything in sl—Sl job, Family, etc
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Latoya Church: messes*
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Archmage Atlantis: It was right there at the beginning
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Extropia DaSilva: I am not a transhuman, though. It is just that my philosophy crosses over into H+ in many respects.
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, the idea is that all those guys called john3465 SIllyLastName now can call themselves John Smith
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Zobeid Zuma: Yeah, I’ve got to wonder why the push to change things, and how it will work?
[2010/09/28 15:42]  Lem Skall: family? that never caught on in SL
[2010/09/28 15:43]  ArtCrash Exonar: I know several people that made an alt and switched it to their main identity because of an original name screw up.
[2010/09/28 15:43]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: We know how it will work, Zobeid….
[2010/09/28 15:43]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh yes, Art!
[2010/09/28 15:43]  lufpleh Obstreperous: they do it because many ask for it
[2010/09/28 15:43]  Extropia DaSilva: I thought you could not change your name. I mean, you always have this registered identity that lasts until your primary deletes your account with LL.
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Extropia DaSilva: You can choose an ‘also known as’ but Gwyn is forever Gwyn
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Shorahmin Femto: deleting doesn’t remove you, sorry
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Violette McMinnar: I heard that the name we are given in rl influences the qualities we learn in lif, so in a way all Maries or all Janes would share similiar qualities, would you agree? If thats the truth choosing a name would greatly influence life, even here in sl…???
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Lem Skall: interestingly enough, it bothered me when I realized that my RL name became available in SL and I missed catching it, it won’t matter much anymore with this change
[2010/09/28 15:44]  ArtCrash Exonar: You can’t change the name of a specific avatar once created, but you can have unlimited alternate avatars…..
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Archmage Atlantis: My alts knew their names when they saw them also
[2010/09/28 15:44]  Luisa Bourgoin: identity is like branding
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Extropia DaSilva: I never heard that, Violette. How interesting.
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I’ve heard that too, Violette 🙂 Actually, there is a very interesting article on the original “Freakonomics” book about how a name will condition your career choices…
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Really, Lem? Wow!
[2010/09/28 15:45]  ArtCrash Exonar: I know many people with alts that they can’t get to because they forgot the right passwords…. ha ha ha or even forgot the alts names!
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Archmage Atlantis: I’ve read that Gwyn
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Luisa: in SL, identity IS branding. Something that LL is refusing to admit.
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Extropia DaSilva: Johnny Cash had a song about a name that determine’s how a boy grew into a man…
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Shorahmin Femto: Boy named Sue
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Lem Skall: what name was that Extie? I don’t know the song
[2010/09/28 15:45]  ArtCrash Exonar: SL avatars are definitely Brands as are email handles dating way back in time.
[2010/09/28 15:45]  Bruce Mowbray: Sue.
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Lem Skall: oh
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Latoya Church: I called that Sterotyping though—because if you have rl name of DERELL or Da marcus—or neete—then that can be an issue
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Archmage Atlantis: But I never felt that way, I always felt my name in RL matched also
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I agree totally, Art!
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Luisa Bourgoin: why don’t we got a president who’s name is Mr Wackadoodle?
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Shorahmin Femto: don’t think my name meant anything at all
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Latoya, it is indeed stereotyping, but it nevertheless seems to be statistically true.
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Zobeid Zuma: Do avatars ever get idlepurged if you don’t connect for a long time?
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Bruce Mowbray: I hated my RL name so much that I had it legally changed in court.
[2010/09/28 15:46]  ArtCrash Exonar: The brand is the brand of your opinion and internet comments over time for most people.
[2010/09/28 15:46]  Extropia DaSilva: in forums and such, your name is like your face. It is the primary identity. Would you say that is also true in online worlds?
[2010/09/28 15:46]  ArtCrash Exonar: I don’t think they do Zobeid
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Zobeid: allegedly, no, but a few have been deleted at the request of their owners. I certainly deleted a lot of alts used to test LL’s Registration API…
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Extie: even more so!
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Specially in SL, where names pop up on creator tags…
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: and owner tags…
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Extropia DaSilva: OH yeah, forgot about that:)
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Violette McMinnar: the theory is that each letter is a vibration and a name or any other word for tha metter is a sound vibration carrying specific energy, so each name carries a specific energy and this way influences life… just a theory??
[2010/09/28 15:47]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: The name is the ID, the brand, the identity…
[2010/09/28 15:48]  ArtCrash Exonar: Is there anyone in the room that has zero alternate avatars? I’m really curious.
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Zobeid Zuma: I think it’s possible that my original avatar still exists. . . . I remember the name *but* not the password, and I don’t have that email address anymore. So there doesn’t seem to be any way to retreive it.
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me grins — I do have an alt, yes 🙂 Which I use a lot to be able to attend two simultaneous conversations.
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: *meetings even
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Luisa Bourgoin: Violette, consider different languages. So associations fluctuate according to country
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Extropia DaSilva: Well scientifically a theory is a hypothesis supported by a great deal of experimental and other kinds of evidence. So…is there any such evidence of these vibrations?
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Lem Skall: hehe, I used to have a neighbor with two chihuahua dogs, one named Carlos and one named Pepe, guess which one was the dominant one?
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Now it will be great because I’ll be able to rename my alt to have exactly the same spelling as my main account 😀
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Archmage Atlantis: More interestingly, what do the alts represent? Mine represent sub-personalities.
[2010/09/28 15:48]  Shorahmin Femto: I created a new one when I rejoined SL. Only to find the old one was still there. I closed the hew account and went back to the old one
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Latoya Church: pepe?
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Violette McMinnar: I think the language does not make a difference, some have extra sounds and that makes it richer… just speculating here
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Shorahmin Femto: so I’m sorta at zero
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Vibrations? Mmmh. If there are any studies, I’m sure that they might determine correlation, but hardly causation.
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Lem Skall: wrong answer ;P
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Latoya Church: /me laughs
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Latoya Church: darn it
[2010/09/28 15:49]  Extropia DaSilva: Well, they can represent all kinds of things. I divide alts into Dolls and Actives,
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Shorahmin Femto: are we still trying to get the ether to vibrate?
[2010/09/28 15:50]  ArtCrash Exonar: Why didn’t Linden Lab make it so that you could protect your avatar name with this new naming feature? What is their reasoning on the topic?
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Lem Skall: so I think it was almost cruel to determine the dogs personalities by picking such unequal names
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Latoya Church: How can you protect it?
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Art, their idea is that all good names were taken 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Latoya Church: I dont understand
[2010/09/28 15:50]  Lem Skall: protect it from what?
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: You could make it so that when switching to an exiting name, the system wouldn’t allow you.
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Protect from name collision — two residents using the same name.
[2010/09/28 15:51]  ArtCrash Exonar: They could make all selected avatar names not available when you go through the change process.
[2010/09/28 15:51]  lufpleh Obstreperous: whose to say it is “your” name the real Artcrash may want to join SL next week
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Latoya Church: using the exact first name?
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Both….
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Latoya Church: Or First and last name?
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Luisa Bourgoin: Latoya Linden
[2010/09/28 15:51]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Latoya Church: o.O
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Both… the difference between “first” and “last” names will disappear
[2010/09/28 15:51]  Luisa Bourgoin: …you would have to hide whole 7 days…
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Archmage Atlantis: Well, as a near equivalent, how do ppl chose the names of pets…..or children for that matter?
[2010/09/28 15:52]  ArtCrash Exonar: I checked, I am the one and only ArtCrash on the entire Internet! ha ha ha
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Extropia DaSilva: I think with my name, if somebody chose to call their avvie ‘Extropia DaSilva’ I would think they were influenced by me. But…Gwyneth llewelyn could just be what some Welsh woman is known as in RL.
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Latoya Church: Wait!——I thought you can not have the same first and last name as somebody else
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Zobeid Zuma: Rhiannon, hii!
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: e.g. there will only be “names”. Spaces don’t count 🙂 You can have 3, 4, 5 names…. good for us Portuguese, we all have at least 4 names, the average is 6 though
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Lem Skall: but the name becomes just an ID, like a number and it just loses the old value, therefore nothing to protect
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Frederick Hansome: I always associated the name “Quenton” with a guy being gay. Very much in error, I know, but the feeling was/is there!
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Latoya Church: /me nods
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Violette McMinnar: We pick names because we feel atraction to them
[2010/09/28 15:52]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Thankfully, Extie, there are few “Gwyneth Llewelyns” iRL 🙂 I’m lucky 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Extropia DaSilva: even fewer Extie’s;)
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Lem Skall: even fewer Lem Skall’s
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Lem, that’s why I trademarked my name 😉
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *giggles*
[2010/09/28 15:53]  lufpleh Obstreperous: the value in exisiing names is in their uniqueness
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Latoya Church: /me mutters “I need to trade mark my name too”
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Shorahmin Femto: Gwyn, just realized winzip is a Portuguese product
[2010/09/28 15:53]  Lem Skall: your name is not unique in RL, is it less valuable?
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Extropia DaSilva: You ever come across a name where it is like ‘Oh hello…(oo how do you spell it..) Zimgighhsuagy:)
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Latoya Church: /me turns to Lem “Well i think it is”
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: You’re joking, Shorah…. really?? lol
[2010/09/28 15:54]  ArtCrash Exonar: When you do the simple math on the number of possible combinations of letters making original names, it quicky goes way beyond the number of people in the world many times over.
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Shorahmin Femto: yes, been using for a long time
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Lem, you’re right, and that’s pretty much LL’s argument.
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Rhiannon Dragoone: lufpleh, are you sniffing me?
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Latoya Church: /me nods
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Extropia DaSilva: Hello Rhi!
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Rhiannon Dragoone: hi Extropia
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Shorahmin Femto: he/its harmless
[2010/09/28 15:54]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: However, SL works under a slightly different set of assumptions….
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Shorahmin, I hope so
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Zobeid Zuma: I thought unique names were one way that SL improved over RL. Why are we abandoning this avantage? Will they make us stop flying next? 😛
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: i.e. up to now, we *assumed* that content creators’ names were unique and impossible to forge.
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Shorahmin Femto: at least that’s what the ad says
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Luisa Bourgoin: nothing is impossible
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Lem Skall: “SL improved over RL”? whatcha talking about?
[2010/09/28 15:55]  Latoya Church: o.O
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Zobeid Zuma: I mean, SL was better than RL in the sense that here you have a unique name.
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe I don’t know what Zobeid is talking about, but I was talking about IP protection rights 😉
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Latoya Church: ohh gotcha Zobeid
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Latoya Church: o.O
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Latoya Church: lol
[2010/09/28 15:56]  ArtCrash Exonar: Lem, the more common your name the less valuable it is as a Brand is easy to demonstrate. Try doing a google search for David Johnson or a similar common name. YOu will never ever find the one you are looking for. ……
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Lem Skall: oh, you mean the OLD SL? the one that also said “your world wour imagination”? That SL has expired
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Extropia DaSilva: But am I right that it will be ‘AVATAR X also known as….’ or are we talking about changing your one and only actual SL name here?
[2010/09/28 15:56]  Luisa Bourgoin: …even without “Fly” button w’ll always got rocketeer backpacks
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Zobeid Zuma: Yeah Extie, I’m wondering how that works too.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Mind you, I’m not against the possibility of changing names… I’m just against the possibility of allowing people to impersonate others more easily, and have to go through the Abuse Report system to deal with the culprits.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Mmh.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: You’ll get two names, actually
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Extropia DaSilva: Because I am quite sure the name your account is registered as, remains YOURS.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: One is the username. It’s just a way to log in.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Extropia DaSilva: yeah, that.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: The other is the Display Name. That’s what shows up on your tag.
[2010/09/28 15:57]  ArtCrash Exonar: I have artist friends who are already more famous as their Avatar name than their given name. So they use it in their RL art world as well. Usually they mention both.
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: You will be able to see both the username and the display name but…
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Latoya Church: woooooooooooow @ art
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Latoya Church: thats neat
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: (same here, Art, and I’m not an artist!)
[2010/09/28 15:58]  ArtCrash Exonar: Filthy Fluno, for example is far more well know in the art world than Jeffrey Lipsky.
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: ironically, in the academic world, there is an increasing trend for scientists to publish their work under their avatar name too.
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Extropia DaSilva: Happens all the time. Gordon Summer who he? Now Sting, that name we know.
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Lem Skall: Gwyn, do you ask your RL parents to call you Gwyn?
[2010/09/28 15:58]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: No :)But a few friends of mine do 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Luisa Bourgoin: science beeing … close to art, that’s okay
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: And it’s always fun to get phone calls and mail sent to my offices in the name of “Gwyneth llewelyn” 😉
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: *office (singular)
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Luisa 🙂
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Zobeid Zuma: Not to mention the artist formerly known as “The Artist Formerly Known as ‘Prince'”. . .
[2010/09/28 15:59]  Lem Skall: do you change your voice when you answer the phone for Gwyn?
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Extropia DaSilva: Offices huh? The jig is up, Donald Trump! We know it is you now!
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe Zo — now he can change his Display Name in SL to show the strange rune instead of his name!
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: haha Lem!!!!
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Extie
[2010/09/28 16:00]  ArtCrash Exonar: I think many people answer to their Avatar Names in RL. The SLCC convention is evidence of this. Those attending mostly used their avatar names all the time there.
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Rhiannon Dragoone: i’ve used a voice changer on my phone so ppl think i’m a guy
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: oooh Rhi …. haha now that’s an idea! How does that work!?
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: On a regular phone??
[2010/09/28 16:00]  Zobeid Zuma: Guy? Or Cylon? Or Dalek? 😛
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Lem Skall: Rhi, why?
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Latoya Church: /me shifts in her seat a bit
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Extropia DaSilva: Yeah but that is the SLCC convention. People at Trekkie conventions come dressed as klingons but do not necessarily do that in all walks of life.
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, i’m not sure, but you set it to modulate the vibrations of your voice; Lem, i’m a single girl living at home; we get harassed, even stalked
[2010/09/28 16:01]  ArtCrash Exonar: Zobeid, I used to sign my emails The Artist Formerly Known As Hey You… ha ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me *nods* @ Rhi and fully understands her
[2010/09/28 16:01]  Rhiannon Dragoone: ArtCrash, lol
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Extropia DaSilva: BTW, at the SLCC convention do you HAVE to divulge your SL name?
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Luisa Bourgoin: avatar identity growing into second real life self reception. hmm
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Lem Skall: Rhi, just learn how to kick in the groin
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Lern, doesn’t help if you wake up and they’re on top of you
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Rhiannon Dragoone: But I also carry a .357 M&P
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I wondered about that too, Extie… if I ever attended SLCC, I’d use one alt 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Lem Skall: oh nice
[2010/09/28 16:02]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: oh my, Rhi 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me looks at Rhiannon and wonders *where* she hides the M&P!
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Gwyneth, so the conference is in SL?
[2010/09/28 16:03]  ArtCrash Exonar: Extropia, I don’t think that you have to have your RL name printed on your name tag at SLCC, Extie.
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Gwyn, lol; not here, silly
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: SLCC is mostly iRL, but some sessions are usually in SL too
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe Rhi
[2010/09/28 16:03]  ArtCrash Exonar: They just need a real live credit card, right? ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:03]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: who knows, for all I know, you might wander around iRL like that too, Rhi 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:04]  lufpleh Obstreperous: will they be changing the sign up page so new users can choose the complete name or will they still have only the choice from selected last names
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Art, my credit card is in the name of “Gwyneth Llewelyn” 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Luisa Bourgoin: not without a sneeze
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Let me show a picture…
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Extropia DaSilva: yeah but it would still identify that particular person as my primary. Which is not what I want.
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Gwyn, well, i do at home and at dancing, but not at my new job–i now teach math part time
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Lem Skall: yeah, walks around like that but talks with the voice of a man
[2010/09/28 16:04]  ArtCrash Exonar: That is priceless Gwyn! ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Rhiannon Dragoone: I had my first teaching today!
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:04]  Extropia DaSilva: Oh? What did you teach?
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Intermediate algebra and writing
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Extropia DaSilva: Ooo.
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Extropia DaSilva: Deep
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Rhiannon Dragoone: ty Extropia
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Rhiannon Dragoone: So i’m walking on air atm
[2010/09/28 16:05]  ArtCrash Exonar: Those two subjects together violate the stereotypes for both Writers and Mathmaticians!
[2010/09/28 16:05]  Extropia DaSilva: 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Lem Skall: I thought that knowing math makes you unattractive enough that you don’t get stalked
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Rhiannon Dragoone: ArtCrash, yeah, i guess they do
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Lem, oh, thank you so much; but this new avi of mine is basically what i look like irl, except my hair is brownish-red, not red
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Extropia DaSilva: Yeah maths geeks are SOOO E=MC square;)
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Archmage Atlantis: Only by other mathematicians, well, and theoritical phyics guys
[2010/09/28 16:06]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:07]  Latoya Church: /me looks behind her seat at Rhiannon
[2010/09/28 16:07]  ArtCrash Exonar: So you have reddish pink toenails in RL?
[2010/09/28 16:07]  Latoya Church: omg *shes naked*
[2010/09/28 16:07]  lufpleh Obstreperous: think that about sums display names up, lot of noise at first then interest will wane
[2010/09/28 16:07]  Lem Skall: yeah, but the mathematicians and the theoretical physicists can’t fight anyway
[2010/09/28 16:08]  Luisa Bourgoin: lufp, ain’t SL residents always act like that?
[2010/09/28 16:08]  Rhiannon Dragoone: /me giggles and waves at Latoya
[2010/09/28 16:08]  Archmage Atlantis: She’s always nakked, I thought everyone was over that by now
[2010/09/28 16:08]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Arch, yeah, well, for some ppl its new
[2010/09/28 16:08]  ArtCrash Exonar: Well, how many Crap Mariners and Prokofy Nevas will be walking around. Not to mention Philip Rosedales
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Latoya Church: I just noticed
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Latoya Church: sorry
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Latoya Church: my bad
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Extropia DaSilva: More than one Prok? God! I am depressed now.
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Lem Skall: no one cares about Crap Mariner
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Luisa Bourgoin: Latoya, understandable … one always exspect things rezzing eventually
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Extropia DaSilva: BTW where is my wife?
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, that’s ok, i just noticed ur black
[2010/09/28 16:09]  lufpleh Obstreperous: /me imagines a Thinkers meeting with 20 Proks attending! lol
[2010/09/28 16:09]  Extropia DaSilva: I do. I like Crap.
[2010/09/28 16:10]  Lem Skall: omg, she’s black?
[2010/09/28 16:10]  Extropia DaSilva: He said he attended as an alt.
[2010/09/28 16:10]  Lem Skall: oh he does?
[2010/09/28 16:10]  ArtCrash Exonar: It is funny that Prokofy Neva can provoke so much controversy. In RL, just an average middle aged woman with lots of spare time and a desire to pontificate exponentially.
[2010/09/28 16:10]  Extropia DaSilva: who knows if he really did ot not?
[2010/09/28 16:10]  Luisa Bourgoin: Crap isn’t that high profiled in my perception … active blogging? similar style like Prok?
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Extropia DaSilva: Well, a lot of people have heard of Prok so if fame is what you are after, he is doing something right.
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Lem Skall: Crap and Prok are in a battle right now
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: again?
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Archmage Atlantis: Define “high profiled” and the how you determnine that Luisa 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:11]  ArtCrash Exonar: Crap Mariner claims to be the anti Prokofy, though their rl politics are almost identical: Libertarian to the core.
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Lem Skall: the same one I guess
[2010/09/28 16:11]  Luisa Bourgoin: “clash of the Titans”
[2010/09/28 16:11]  lufpleh Obstreperous: good for them, means the rest of can live in peace for a moment! hehe
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: So what exactly are we discussing? The convention, names, what?
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Archmage Atlantis: Names
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Lem Skall: everything
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Luisa Bourgoin: trailing of…
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Archmage Atlantis: and Naming
[2010/09/28 16:12]  ArtCrash Exonar: The fact that you will be able to change your avatar name at will now.
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: ok, so i’m not lost at all; i thught it was names and everything
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Archmage Atlantis: at least that was the starting point
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Luisa Bourgoin: Rhi’s behind side has been toppic, too
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Extropia DaSilva: Sometimes I can see why someone has pissed off Prok. I know why I piss him off. But other times it is like ‘the awful Botgirl’ and I am wondering ;uh why is botgirl ‘awful’?
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Lem Skall: did LL come out with the beta yet? has anyone tried it?
[2010/09/28 16:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Yeah, i heard that; i’m thinking of copyrighting mine
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Luisa, yeah, i thought so; ::giggles::
[2010/09/28 16:13]  lufpleh Obstreperous: whats going to happen to those people who paid $500 to have a RL name in SL
[2010/09/28 16:13]  ArtCrash Exonar: Botgirl is a friend of mine and a really reasonable and thoughtful person.
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Extropia DaSilva: Hey Lem, did you not know, Web 2.0 is pereptual beta!
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Luisa Bourgoin: they got ripped of for worth by 500$ I believe
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Lem Skall: Rhi’s front side is more interesting
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Archmage Atlantis: Yea, I had to reinstall today and the beta was a choice
[2010/09/28 16:13]  Extropia DaSilva: Oh that explains it.
[2010/09/28 16:13]  lufpleh Obstreperous: lol Lusia
[2010/09/28 16:14]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Lem, now stop it! ::she says in a tone indicating she’s secretly pleased
[2010/09/28 16:14]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I’m sure they won’t get their money back!!!
[2010/09/28 16:14]  ArtCrash Exonar: She has to shave more frequently than the rest of us I think.
[2010/09/28 16:14]  Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, i wondered how you could change your name; but i’m used to Dragoone
[2010/09/28 16:16]  lufpleh Obstreperous: what about companies doing event/promotions in SL, often they reserve the last name say Nortel, will thatstill be the case
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Lem Skall: is there a name that may become overused? like Einstein?
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: The “How” will be very simple, Rhi
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Archmage Atlantis: I think the last name choice is more interesting, it’s like saying I choose this tribe, in a way
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok mmmh
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: To recap…
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Luisa Bourgoin: a huge part of SL’s population will love changing names occasionally
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: There will be no “first names” and “last names”
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: there will be just “names”
[2010/09/28 16:16]  Extropia DaSilva: Oh that is an interesting observation, Arch
[2010/09/28 16:16]  ArtCrash Exonar: It is really interesting how you bond with your avatar name. All of your experiences while inhabiting your avatar get tied to that name. You become the name after time passes.
[2010/09/28 16:17]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed, Art, and it happens faster than with your own real name 😉
[2010/09/28 16:17]  Rhiannon Dragoone: ArtCrash; yes you do; and esp. in my case, i market my avatar name
[2010/09/28 16:17]  Luisa Bourgoin: I can have a middle name?
[2010/09/28 16:17]  ArtCrash Exonar: I know who will change their name constantly: Prad Prathivi. He changes his name every other day on Plurk.
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Archmage Atlantis: One could imply a middle name with Capitalization
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Lem Skall: Art, stop name dropping, now you sound like you ARE Crap
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: you shall be able to add as many names as you wisj, Luisa!
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: *wish
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Extropia DaSilva: I wonder if the people who change avvies a lot (like Zoe) will also change their name a lot?
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Archmage Atlantis: Like Crash being a middle name, in a way
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, “a lot” means “once per week”
[2010/09/28 16:18]  Lem Skall: I mean Crap Mariner
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Zobeid Zuma: Change avvies a lot?
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Extropia DaSilva: Yeah.
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Zobeid Zuma: Oh you mean my outfits/morphs?
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Luisa Bourgoin: if abuse happens way to frequently, this weeklong period could get prolonged
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Extropia DaSilva: yeah
[2010/09/28 16:19]  ArtCrash Exonar: I do think it is wise for them to make the name change thing only available each week. You have to commit for a week to it. That will keep it from going too much out of control I think.
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Luisa Bourgoin: so far I fail in recognizing the end of SL in arrival of this names thingy
[2010/09/28 16:19]  Zobeid Zuma: I don’t think I’ll feel compelled to change my name.
[2010/09/28 16:19]  ArtCrash Exonar: I know this really really cool guy! Lem Skall!
[2010/09/28 16:19]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: The roleplayers are not happy, though… they switch games more often than once per week.
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Archmage Atlantis: I think that someone who changes often won’t really exist for others who are here
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Extropia DaSilva: I cannot see anyone changing name unless now they can adopt the name they always wanted but could not before for whatever reason. Apart from that, why would you change your name?
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: One suggestion that was made to limit abuse was to have a L$ fee to change name.
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Zobeid Zuma: I see it as a distraction, Luisa. Yet another thing LL is doing to distract us from the many SL shortcomings that they aren’t doing anything about. 😛
[2010/09/28 16:20]  lufpleh Obstreperous: some people will be scammed by it early on, then we will all get used to it and adapt
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Lem Skall: geez, I got called in the same group with Prok and Crap
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Extie, it’s just like IRC and MUDs 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:20]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: You change nicknames *because you can* 😉
[2010/09/28 16:21]  ArtCrash Exonar: Prok, Cram and Lem (and Extie of course)
[2010/09/28 16:21]  ArtCrash Exonar: Crap
[2010/09/28 16:21]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:21]  Lem Skall: ok, people are unhappy with the change but this is the way it should have been in the first place
[2010/09/28 16:21]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, some ppl were mean to me and accused me of being a psycopath named Scott Pierson, so i came up with an alt named Scott to shut them up; i’ll change his name to Pierson to complete that, but otherwise, i like my name
[2010/09/28 16:21]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Art, I’ve found that picture! http://gwynethllewelyn.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gwynwirecard.jpg 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:21]  Zobeid Zuma: I’m annoyed by this change, and I don’t see any reason why it should have been in the first place.
[2010/09/28 16:21]  Extropia DaSilva: Well I love my name. I would not want to be called anything else (of course ‘Extie’ and ‘Extro’ is OK too). But I guess not everyone is so attached to their online identity as I am.
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Archmage Atlantis: If you are here to hide, have sex, and play games…..then change away….you aren’t a serious entity to me anyway
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Zobeid Zuma: Oh, I’ve got an idea. . .
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Lem Skall: Zo, it’s the way all networks work on the web
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: A lot of people are here in SL for all those reasons, Arch…
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Extropia DaSilva: yes?
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Archmage Atlantis: I know Gwyn
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Zobeid Zuma: Somebody makes a third-party viewer that filters out avatars who’s user name and display name are different.
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Luisa Bourgoin: the reasons for beeing inside SL … don’t ask me now. Have forgotten
[2010/09/28 16:22]  Archmage Atlantis: They don’t exist for me
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ha! They will *all* be different, Zo!
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Starting on Jan 1,
[2010/09/28 16:23]  lufpleh Obstreperous: who would be prepared to pay to keep their avatar name unique / unavailbe as a display name?
[2010/09/28 16:23]  ArtCrash Exonar: Ha ha, Gwyn that is awesome!
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: your username, for instance, will be zobeid.zuma
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Zobeid Zuma: Where are you getting this info, Gwyn?
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Zobeid Zuma: I haven’t seen that.
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: from LL’s blog…
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Latoya Church: Linden lab
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Latoya Church: /me nods
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me grins @ Art 😉
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Rhiannon Dragoone: I would, lufpleh; i market my discussions through my name
[2010/09/28 16:23]  lufpleh Obstreperous: /me agrees with Gwyn
[2010/09/28 16:23]  Luisa Bourgoin: branding needs consostence. stick to your label/design
[2010/09/28 16:24]  Archmage Atlantis: That is an interesting question, about willingness to pay to be unique
[2010/09/28 16:24]  ArtCrash Exonar: I’m guessing that originally they wanted last names to be associated with ‘eras’ of SL entry and to some extent that works.
[2010/09/28 16:24]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, granted, it will be easy to do a few lines of code to drop a display name to lowercase, replace space with a dot, and if it doesn’t match, flag it 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:24]  Rhiannon Dragoone: How are duplicate names going to affect things like banning?
[2010/09/28 16:24]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Well avi’s with the same names be banned from places?
[2010/09/28 16:25]  Extropia DaSilva: Not I Luf. I dream of my identity spreading so that there is always an Extropia DaSilva in SL. Of course, each would have to act enough like me to make you lot think it is the same Extie, which might a a challenge. And I want no griefers muddying my name thank you!
[2010/09/28 16:25]  ArtCrash Exonar: Interesting point Riannon
[2010/09/28 16:25]  Archmage Atlantis: For those who remember the gold rush on domain names, given human nature, something similar could evolve
[2010/09/28 16:25]  lufpleh Obstreperous: lol Ex, prety sure there is only one Ex
[2010/09/28 16:25]  Luisa Bourgoin: technically, all banning devices work on avatar UUIDs
[2010/09/28 16:25]  Lem Skall: Rhi, the names will be duplicated but not the usernames and that is what will be used for every practical purpose like banning
[2010/09/28 16:26]  ArtCrash Exonar: Yes, and the domain name thing was solved using trademark law as a final arbiter
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Rhiannon Dragoone: So if you make ur user name your avi name, you’ll be ok?
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Rhiannon Dragoone: I don’t like the idea of my rl name being my user name
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Extropia DaSilva: Why? I am a digital person, a fictional character. It is not unheard of for one character to be played by many different actors over the years.
[2010/09/28 16:26]  lufpleh Obstreperous: why they went with dispaly names instead of nicknames, LL madness
[2010/09/28 16:26]  ArtCrash Exonar: If you really are into branding, maybe you should trademark your avatar name
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Zobeid Zuma: Sort of like Doctor Who, Extie?
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Lem Skall: Rhi, it doesn’t matter, the username is really the identifier, the “name” is just for show
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Rhiannon Dragoone: AirCrash, i’m considering it
[2010/09/28 16:26]  Extropia DaSilva: sort of, yeah.
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Lem Skall: your name may be “I feel groovy”
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: sure 😀
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Extropia DaSilva: Lucky Groovy, I say.
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: or Unicode garbage!
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Lem Skall: or “kiss me, I’m Irish”
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Luisa Bourgoin: LL Office hours attended by twenty “Fix It”s
[2010/09/28 16:27]  Rhiannon Dragoone: But then won’t that mean all your alts will be banned too, unless they are under a different user name? I ask cuz one place allows me to come as an alt, but bans me as myself
[2010/09/28 16:28]  ArtCrash Exonar: I always have fun with the group titles, Maybe I will just change that principle to my name. But then nobody would recognize me…. ha ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Lem Skall: the alts have their own username
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Extropia DaSilva: Why would anyone ban you?
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Thothica, I can’t come as Rhiannon Dragoone, but even though the sim admin knows my alt is me, i can come as the alt
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm. You will somehow be given access to the username from within LSL scripts, but this is not yet clear how….
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Lem Skall: Extie, because she’s naked
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Lem Skall: or because she’s a mathematician
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Extropia DaSilva: No she is not. She has her shoes on.
[2010/09/28 16:28]  Lem Skall: but no shirt
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Rhiannon Dragoone: that’s right, and my glasses
[2010/09/28 16:29]  ArtCrash Exonar: All you can get is the avatar Id code
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Luisa Bourgoin: /me *facepalms*
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm. It’s not clear yet.
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Extropia DaSilva: Tell me the name of the sim, Rhi. I shall make a point of never going there until they stop being silly and let youcome and go as you please.
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Well, the alt i go as is from a different use name anyway
[2010/09/28 16:29]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Extropia, its thothica
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: A lot of existing LSL code will break if it has to work on usernames instead of Display Names….
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Luisa Bourgoin: breaking code is fun!
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Rhiannon Dragoone: I go there as an avatar with an identical shape and appearance, except for the hair and she doesn’t wear glasses
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Different shoes too
[2010/09/28 16:30]  ArtCrash Exonar: Thothica group does some great things. I have attended some excellent discussions there.
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Extropia DaSilva: SL code break? Surely not? It is so stable and reliable.
[2010/09/28 16:30]  Rhiannon Dragoone: So its the same me, but different name and user name
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Rhiannon Dragoone: And the sim admin who banned me knows it, as it is obviously me
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Lem Skall: Rhi, right now your name IS the user name too but that will change
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe Extie…
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Zobeid Zuma: Oh, I find this interesting: The Display Names project also allows us to simplify the registration process. In the past, name choice has been a point at which many potential Residents abandon the process.
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, Zo!
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Archmage Atlantis: Luisa Bourgoin , sort of Lizzy Borden……..took an ax and gave LL code 40 wacks 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Lem, yeah, but this alt has a different user name, email address and even pays for things differently
[2010/09/28 16:31]  Extropia DaSilva: So is it a doll alt? An alt you use to attend more than one event at a time, or anything that does not involve roleplaying a different identity (that is an ‘Active’ alt)?
[2010/09/28 16:31]  ArtCrash Exonar: Gwyn, could you throw up the link to the LL Name change rules thingy?
[2010/09/28 16:32]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: hrrrmpf
[2010/09/28 16:32]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: /me mumbles “use Google” mumblemumble
[2010/09/28 16:32]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:32]  ArtCrash Exonar: NO!
[2010/09/28 16:32]  ArtCrash Exonar: ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:32]  Zobeid Zuma: I’ve noticed avs wandering around who I’d almost swear had accidentally typed in a password into the name field when signing up. (Haven’t got any of them to admit it though!)
[2010/09/28 16:32]  ArtCrash Exonar: Oh allright
[2010/09/28 16:32]  lufpleh Obstreperous: is there a reson the username is changing to name1.name2
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Just for the 20 million existing accounts, lufpleh
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: the ones registered afterwards can use whatever they wish
[2010/09/28 16:33]  ArtCrash Exonar: Yay!
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Lem Skall: luf, they need an automatic mechanism to make the switch
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Luisa Bourgoin: if display names could reopen the gates for new neebies pouring into SL, be it
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: So long as they don’t include spaces 🙂
[2010/09/28 16:33]  lufpleh Obstreperous: but why not just leave it alone, name1 name2
[2010/09/28 16:33]  Lem Skall: luf, no spaces
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, I hardly know if LL has done some statistics, e.g. how many residents reported giving up on SL because they couldn’t have the name they wanted
[2010/09/28 16:34]  lufpleh Obstreperous: why
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: luf, like Lem said
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: OpenID issues 😉
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Luisa Bourgoin: Zob, right, Avi names should at least be ronouncable
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Luisa Bourgoin: *pronounceable
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Lem Skall: POEM
[2010/09/28 16:34]  lufpleh Obstreperous: ahh thx Gwyn
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Granted, you could have %20 instead of spaces 😉 but that’s waaaaay harder to type than a dot!
[2010/09/28 16:34]  ArtCrash Exonar: seriously the days of 8 bit coding are so over. Why do people need to have usernames with no spaces? Jeeeeeeeezzzzz!
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Archmage Atlantis: I doubt many, Gwyn
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Extropia DaSilva: cannot do it yet.
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Art, blame it all on HTML 😉
[2010/09/28 16:34]  Luisa Bourgoin: can I use %20 instead of spaces?
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I have no idea, Luisa! Perhaps you can .D
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: We’ll only know once this goes live.
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I believe there is supposed to be a preview on the preview grid, but you can’t register new accounts there…
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Archmage Atlantis: The av known as percent20
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Extropia DaSilva: OK well my time is almost up, so last question: Who here will be changing their name once this is in effect?
[2010/09/28 16:35]  Archmage Atlantis: has a ring to it
[2010/09/28 16:36]  ArtCrash Exonar: Uhhhhhh, not me unless for a joke here and there….. ha ha
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Extropia DaSilva: Noone?
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I will change my alt’s name!
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Luisa Bourgoin: occasionally … most probably for names like Luisa Meow Bourgoin
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Lem Skall: I’ll change my name to Extropia DaSilva2
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Extropia DaSilva: Yay!
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Latoya Church: /me laughs
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Why 2? Just use her name, Lem 😉
[2010/09/28 16:36]  ArtCrash Exonar: Do it Lem!
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Ex, i will change my alt’s name, the one that i made cuz everyone was saying i was this person
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: I might change to “Gwyneth Llewelyn®” 😉
[2010/09/28 16:36]  Extropia DaSilva: I shall try and get that into the poem..
[2010/09/28 16:37]  Rhiannon Dragoone: I have his last name, and will change my alt to that name
[2010/09/28 16:37]  Lem Skall: no, I don’t want to get assaulted for all her issues
[2010/09/28 16:37]  Extropia DaSilva: Ok my time is up!
[2010/09/28 16:37]  ArtCrash Exonar: We could all change our names to Extropia DaSilva one week and invite an anthropoligist to figure out what the hell is going on!
[2010/09/28 16:37]  Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sure, Extropia, if that’s your real name… 😉
[2010/09/28 16:37]  Extropia DaSilva: NEXT WEEK: ARE WE NEAR THE END OF SCIENCE…
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